WAR : HO LEE SHIT

[Slurm]

herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=841

Today we have important news to share with the community. EA is restructuring its RPG and MMO games development into a new group that includes both Mythic and BioWare. This newly formed team will be led by Ray Muzyka, co-founder and General Manager of BioWare. With this change, Ray becomes Group General Manager of the new RPG/MMO studio group. BioWare’s other co-founder, Greg Zeschuk will become Group Creative Officer for the new RPG/MMO studio group. Rob Denton will step up as General Manager of Mythic and report to Ray. BioWare’s studios remain unchanged and continue to report to Ray.

Mark Jacobs, current General Manager of Mythic will leave EA on June 23, 2009. We thank Mark for his contributions at Mythic and wish him the very best going forward. Mark played a major part in the success of Mythic with his contribution as General Manager and Lead Designer of WAR.

Mythic retains a strong team led by Rob who co-founded Mythic in 1995. Rob played a critical role in the development of Dark Age of Camelot. In his previous role as COO, he was responsible for all day-to-day management of the studio including all development, operations and support.

Please join us in celebrating the union of these two award-winning studios.

[Aberrant]

Zeli and I were just talking about Mark, and how it was funny that he hasn't done a State of the Game. We both guessed that he was already canned, or would be soon.

Craziness about Bioware.

[Slurm]

Yeah, im assuming this should have read "Mark Jacobs, current General Manager of Mythic will (be forced to) leave EA on June 23, 2009

I'm not sure if this is a good thing for Mythic or a bad thing for Bioware (or both/neither?)

[Big Hoss]

Welcome to the corporate work of EA Mark. Have they canned Paul yet i don't really know what he does beyond his video blog and giving animated speeches.

[Slurm]

Paul was doing some talking about Star Wars: TOR at E3, so I guess we could have seen it as a sign of things in store for Mythic. But I didnt figure they would "weigh down" anyone at Bioware seeing as they are working on what could potentially be the next BIG mmo. Not like the dev teams are getting moved around or anything, but its still management changes, and that can be enough to change a company. Good or bad.

Just look at the whole F1/Max Mosley fiasco....if you want a racing metaphor.

[Zeli]

I heard Paul and Carrie (lady who developed the ToK) on GiantBombcast during E3 and they intro'd themselves as EA devs and I thought that was really weird at that point.

I was reorganizing our forums yesterday and I ran across the news about EA announcing that Mythic was their MMO team now and that was pre Bioware mmo talk. So just yesterday i was wondering how long that was going to remain separate!

And it's been really quiet on the usually talkative Mark Jacobs posting on VN too.

Personally, I think it's excellent for WAR players to get Bioware thinking folks in on the WAR front to get some new perspective on some of the games problems that have obviously stumped some Mythic people for a while now.

[Winin]

Wow. Not sure if this is good, bad, or indifferent.

[Slurm]

EA announcing that Mythic was their MMO team now

wonder how long it will be before a name change happens...

Biomyth?

Mythware?

[Keinermacht]

Jun 24, 2009 11:55:02 GMT -5 Winin said:

Wow. Not sure if this is good, bad, or indifferent.

Early chatter on other forum sites is almost unanimously positive. I kind of see Mark Jacobs leaving as the equivalent of a bad sports team seeing its coach/manager fired - the guy might have done nothing wrong, but it could still lead to better results down the road.

Bioware is a fantastic studio and one of my "flawless five" developers who seem incapable of programming a bad PC game (the others being Valve, Bethesda, Epic, and Blizzard) so I see no way for this to be a bad change.

How does a KOTOR/WAR/DAOC combo subscription package some years down the line sound?

[Zeli]

How does a KOTOR/WAR/DAOC combo subscription package some years down the line sound?

now that sent a nice thrill through me...

Mark Jacobs, I don't know, never worked with him, don't know anyone who worked for him so I have zero opinion on the matter of him being fired, but I do know that he has children and it's sad for a dad to get fired.

I'm trying to focus on the "I'm a WAR player and we just got some massive talent added to the WAR-mix" part.

[Slurm]

How does a KOTOR/WAR/DAOC combo subscription package some years down the line sound?

expensive hehe

I just replyed to Bootae on his blog about this story. Basically, I just dont think we'll see a big change in the game. He mentioned how polished bioware games always are, but I dont think that will equate to a new polish of WAR. Again, like I said above, its not like the Dev's are moving around. When that happens, ill raise an eyebrow.

[Aberrant]

I agree with Kein. Bioware has earned my optimism.

It is sad to see Mythic flounder like this. Should have had 3 sides

So, this officially means no Imperator revival, right?

[Slurm]

Should have had 3 sides

hehe Syncaine just wrote about that on his site. /agreed

yeah, im probably being down on Mythic about the whole deal. I really do hope this change does good for the game. I'd love for it to be all it should have been so I can go back. ;D

[Zeli]

ya slurm, way to piss in my cheerios!

and thank you Captain "Advice that's too late" ;D

link to official forum thread: forums.warhammeronline.com/warhammer/board/message?board.id=dev_discussions&thread.id=2509

[Slurm]

ya slurm, way to piss in my cheerios!

Sorry....its part of my greiving process...ill put it away


Edited for speling errurs